taylor payment, did you see or where you made aware of the "for neville email", the transcript of the hacked voicemail message? >> no, i was not aware of that at the time. >> now at that moment, he became very vulnerable. >> because on june 7th, 2008, he had received an e-mail about the settlement that included this damning evidence about the news of the world. >> i think we have covered this at some considerable length. >> well, we haven't actually, chairman. we haven't but i respect it. >> i was sitting at the side of the room with a row of people in front of me, including rupert murdoch. i became aware of some movement at the back of the room and somebody walking. and in a split second i realized this was somebody who should not be there, who was carrying something in his hand. >> no, no, no! >> oh! >> this man tried to dump a plateful of shaving cream or something in rupert murdoch's face. >> oh!