as a genuine psychopath. >> ha, ha. >> in a way that raised the stakes for the entire property. >> we knew it was open for a fresh interpretation and i also instantly kind of had something up my sleeve which happened to be exactly what chris was kind of looking for. >> the joker has always been a somewhat ambiguous character. but what heath ledger did was make him truly malevolent. >> you're not as crazy as you look. >> i told you i'm a man of my word. >> there's a scene in the movie where the joker has stolen millions of dollars and he just burns it all. because and that's meaningless to him. "el he just wants to create chaos. >> all you care about is money. this town deserves a better class of criminal. i'm going to give it to them. >> heath ledger i think changed how villains are portrayed in superhero movies. he set the bar so high.