to the evidence come in yeah if they're entertained by martial arts as part of their loved they're certainly going to get a lot of that back-and-forth. we're seeing something in the sandoval hearing right now jeremy, a couple of the other alternates, but there's a woman who's since she's not a big news person looks at the new york times, reuters, and bbc does not have social media another one when who works for a clothing company is married, gets her news from google. >> when you kind of think through this in your former role how are you approaching them? >> this as this all plays out, well, there are some people who would say just pick the first 12 and then you pick the next six if that's how many alternate you're going to have. i don't necessarily subscribe prior to that view. what you want people who are smart enough to understand some things which might be a little complex, meaning this is not a hush-money case. this is about whether or not these records are falsified and those elements and whether or not there was an effort to conceal a separate crime. so you want