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out of some that underscores that these aren't just kind of random unnamed individuals. these are real people and this is something that you can't even fathom unless you're one of those jurors, how does that affect this case here it's it's really problematic and i've said multiple times there's the donald trump who was the innocent until proven guilty. >> and if proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt in that courtroom. and deserves the same due process and the same presumption of innocence at any one of us have. and then there's a donald trump outside that courtroom who says a lot of very vitriolic and frightening and aggressive things that gives pause. be very gentle and nice. the potential jurors. we know that about the judge we know that about prosecutors and witnesses, and it has a really negative and frightening impact on those potential jurors who are scared potentially to say, i don't want to be a part of this problem i says, i don't want to be subject to scrutiny. i don't want the media talking about me and my family. i don't want people showing up at my house or saying things about me online. so it's very again, i use the term frightening repeatedly because it has a way to taint the jury. it's not good for the jury to

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