much. well to brim in hayman former chief security officer of myspace, and robbie ludwick. you know, the whole idea so secret is the number one thing that you would think is important for ashley madison. so if they can't keep a secret on the internet, can anybody? >> well, i think the short answer is not really. what we have to focus on here is when people are going to sites like this, they have to say to themselves, i may be going to an online site that i think is secret, but the reality is it's really no different from what is happening in the real world. are you walking into a building where someone might sue? are you going to a place you shouldn't be going to because you're married, for example? people think they should treat