sending? >> it's king charles and queen camilla and i think -- i really felt in that moment, the way the rest of the family was shoved into a corner, that it -- the spotlight wasn't meant to shine on anyone else except for the king and queen. we were talking about through history -- >> it's his day. >> what about the family? >> well, we're in a transitional period. >> the central shot was of them. it symbolizes to me the fact that charles was overshadowed by his mother, then by his wife, then by his children. he wants the starring role. he didn't wait kate and the children taking over. >> that's the opposite of the message that was being sent through the whole coronation service, which is -- >> but this is -- >> oh, my goodness. >> this was the chance to show