times" study that it's at least 21 per day when they look at the -- they analyze -- they fact-checked 30,000 lies during his administration, which is 21 per day. so, his brain, i think, is different than the rest of our brains. he believes things to be true that aren't. he lies pathologically, and i think that, so, maybe you're not going to be able to prove that his particular brain works that way. it doesn't matter. it's not an element of the crime, and there's enough criminal activity that he did that i think he'll be able to be held accountable. >> congressman kinzinger, do you think we would be here today, the justice department would have moved forward with this, had it not been for the work of your committee? >> i don't think so. you know, look, one of the things we noticed is going through this, and then we had that first tranche of hearings where everybody's eyes got big, like, oh, they have some information, it was then that you saw the frenzy of the doj start moving, and i'm glad they did. i guess i don't want to sit here