he's engaged in a cover-up from the beginning. >> but the remedy, congresswoman, as you know and every congress in history has done, the remedy is to go to court and get the court to compel him and they have not done that. >> i don't think it is mutually exclusive. when the president said the democrats are trivializing this. we give our president 6800 nuclear weapons and he has 1.3 million men and women under arms and every cadet is under his command. he has the most power of any human being in the history of humanity. and yet now he said he can do what he likes. he can leverage that power to advantage himself in the election. if that is as professor gerhardt said, if that is not impeachable, i don't know what is. >> mary katharine, how do you feel about that. >> it was bad behavior from the beginning but the question is a judgment call whether you