is what will hollywood did with that? these awards are wonderful and i'm glad these folks are nominated, that's all terrific. but they -- i think from a commercial standpoint -- almost are looking for a way to bring them into the golden globe mainstream. >> and that means doing really what in some ways if i read you correctly what in some ways scandal has done for tv. >> yes. today there aren't that many dramas that star a black male. some things come up but nothing on a reg basis. so it becomes a part of the way you negotiate hollywood. >> let's talk about d.c. politics. i know that you are a supporter of president obama. he has taken a lot of the