issue that certainly has been difficult for the american catholic church. what's the sense of what he will do or what he has to do on this issue? >> well, no just the name francis but his history and his work in buenos aires, being an advocate of the poor, being an advocate of those who have been victimized in the most broad context, i think is a great sign of hope. and in many ways, even if he simply continues on the trajectory that pope benedict had started but perhaps ran into some roadblocks in trying to accomplish in moving towards zero tolerance and moving towards more transparency in so many things the church in the united states has taken a lot of lead in that in recent years. and it's a problem that other parts of the world are just coming to understand. and that's a frustration for us in the united states to see that the rest of the world, the church and other parts of the world hasn't quite caught up to where we are. >> so, joelle, you listed some