a pretty high speed kind of situation or a situation where something has hit the train. this is the appearance with a tractor trailer accident which is not present here. by tomorrow morning as soon as the ntsb downloads those train black boxes they will have the speed of the train and all the controls on the train, they have where -- this is not a situation that would be significant in this accident but they have when the train moves rails. that black box is very much like an airplane black box. by the afternoon the ntsb will know. the mangling of that car looks like a fairly high speed