go to my website at smerconish.com. and vote on this week's survey question. will mike pence testify before the january 6th committee? yes or no? is trump right when he identifies his opponent's concern about the law. joining me matthew sellaman, he's a fellow at harvard center for law. taught at harvard law. and just published a provocative paper covered at the "washington post" called "a realistic risk assessment of the presidential election of 2024." okay, matthew, can a vice president reject the electoral college? >> absolutely not. that was never the case. that wasn't the case in 2020. and it won't be the case in 2024. vice president pence was absolutely correct in rejecting that power. and vice president harris doesn't have it going forward. >> would you call that a textualist or originalist