president poroshenkyo. if we can get a cease-fire there alone, that can help us. that can help lead us to the next step which poroshenkyo and willing to meet and give them the autonomy. all that is required is russia quit putting arms into that region. >> congress member, this is the fodder for the domestic debate. it is being used for critics of president obama. do you think that is appropriate? >> well, you know, i can remember the remarks of the former cia director who was concerned that when we pulled out of poland and the czech republic in terms of our intercept system to defend that