to say? >> yes, sir. >> you understand that president trump has been skeptical of foreign aid and some of the money as well, is that so? >> i think so. >> that's been fairly consistent. he's done that since before he was elected. ukraine has a long history, and we've talked about that about a thousand times. do you think president trump, i think that was the word, that he would test president trump zelensky prior to providing some of the security assistance. >> president zelensky was new. >> yes. >> i'd met him in february. i was impressed by him, but it was understandable for the administration as a new president of ukraine was coming to office to understand better what that president's policies were and the attitude toward the united states. >> we've had it referred to and the dod completed their review about the same time. this was someone that was elected and we knew nothing