now rick perry getting hit with a subpoena after questions were raised about conversations that he had with the ukrainian president zelensky and conversations he had with president trump, including president trump reportedly, according to cnn's reporting, urging rick perry to talk to rudy giuliani in his discussions with ukraine. now, rick perry has said that all along his conversations with the president zelensky of ukraine were simply about energy. he said he did not talk about the bidens at all or investigating the bidens, that never came up. the democrats said in their letter to perry today, these reports raise significant questions about your efforts to press ukrainian officials to change the management structure at a ukrainian state-owned energy company to benefit individuals involved with rudy giuliani's push to get ukrainian officials to interfere in our 2020 election. wolf, they are asking for documents by october 18th. perry has signaled in the past