of this back and forth with megyn kelly, none of the attacks are hurting him, they're still having people show up to volunteer, and sold-out events left and right. >> speaking of sold-out events take a look at video of bernie sanders' appearance last night in portland. he had 19,000 people inside this venue. i can't wait till the camera zooms out. it's pretty amazing. 9,000 and overflow. if you're hillary clinton and you're looking at this, you wish in your -- you wish you had that crowd, maybe, but maybe you're also thinking you're doing all right? >> yeah, i mean, look at that. 28,000 people show up to hear bernie sanders. by far the biggest crowd of either party's slate of candidates for president for the cycle. i do think that gives heartburn in the clinton headquarters just to see that energy, enthusiasm. but when they dig into what that support is and what she's doing on the ground organizationally in these early states they're still pretty confident in their plan.