were crazy. they all went through my lifetime and spent a couple years looking at that. i just never saw it. >> can you give me example? you obviously didn't kill anybody. >> i'm extremely manipulative. but i do it because i've been successful. i grew up in a loving family. i always got what i wanted. i never had to lie, cheat, steal, any of that. it came easily. but the core thing is i manipulate people all the time. i'm always on the make to create a world that you're going to believe in. but it's important for me to tell the truth. that's part of it. so the lying part, which a lot of psychopaths do, to me are cheap tricks. if you get everything you want, resort to manipulating people with the truth and other things. >> when you learned this about yourself, how did it affect you? you laughed it off initially, but as you pondered it and thought about it more and more, do you change? you're an adult and can't change

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