counting calories, you can stop worrying about nutrients. you're not going to cook junk. you're not going to make french fries, it's too much work. if you're out buying food, you're going to eat french fries twice a day. there's something built into the work itself that naturally pushes you towards a healthier diet. and i think the important thing for all of us because we are very busy and hard to find time to cook is get our kids in the kitchen, get them to help. the most important thing you can teach your kid for their long-term health and happiness is this life skill, how to cook. so i think it offers us a lot. it offers us also if you cook, you're going to have family meals. you're all going to sit down together because you've done all this work. eat real food has been a piece of advice you've been giving for a long time. >> it's simple. >> it's very simple. i always enjoy speaking on you. you fit a lot in. i really appreciate your time. >> thanks a lot. >> a check of your top stories just minutes away, but up next the little known story of how