got to be credible about how you're going to be a nominee of a party that really is focused on working people and small business. and less on the big corporations that may be the old guard republican party. >> her criticism of you is a lot of donors you were cradling her for used to be yours. >> that's untrue. she's got a founder of linkedin, liberal democrat. she has got blackrock ceo. we -- took money out of blackrock from a pension. she's bragged about being there with larry. think he's -- so, those people were never in my camp. she's got a lot of people who are i think more liberal donors. and the question is why? i think that look of it is because they're never trumpers. that's what i find it if she won says she won't be the vp -- >> her other criticism of you is that you essentially have not run a good campaign. you have wasted time -- >> here is the thing. that's all process stuff. she's citing an organization that an outgrowth of even control. people in iowa, they don't have

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