altogether and explain the links. i think this is a major challenge for the press right now, because you've got one team of fact checkers covering misinformation about the vaccines and then you have another team of people covering the fight for voting rights. but these stories are linked in ways that help people understand what's actually happening, understand this war on truth that's been raging for years. it's easier for people to tune into an opinionist, an entertainer who just tries to fill in the blanks by asking questions and dodging the facts rather than try to connect dots and explain how this media landscape, this news environment, is connected in its different strands of war on truth. look, i bring up tucker carlson and put him on screen because he's part of a political party that's taking advantage of this war on truth and creating an alternative reality. so in this environment, how do we all make healthier sandwiches? let's talk about it with perry