and you could understand whether this is a massive problem or a smaller problem if everyone was looking at the same data. that's part of the problem is i feel like the president is left without the data that he needs to really understand what role facebook is playing in the issue. >> so the white house doesn't have the data, news outlets don't have the data. does facebook internally have the information? and do they look at it? do they want to know? >> yeah, so i think there's a couple of layers here. one, facebook absolutely has the data. you know, these are -- the misinformation that you talked about up front, these kinds of sources, whether it's tucker carlson or alex jones or others or a broad array of people who create the misinformation, because remember, there's not people at facebook making the misinformation. there are other people who create it and then it gets distributed on facebook and it goes viral. so facebook absolutely has that data. and they look at it. but do they look at it the right way?