this is a case where american to factored, so we will see what the north koreans. do the problem, is u.s. and north korea are at an impasse right now. there is no dialogue, there is no conversations, since the failure of the hanoi summit, and then the covid, years there has been no conversation between the americans out of the north koreans. >> and i think of that might surprise people given just how much trump was meeting with kim jong-un, and they did have that summit in vietnam. there has been no home contact between the biden education and the -- they are responding to the biden administration, so what do they do in the situation? >> i think the north koreans are going to take their time, freight? oldest cemetery and diplomacy of 20, 18 2019, that cemetery, that diplomacy, it's completely collapsed. and if you remember, north koreans have been just diversifying, monetizing, expanding their nuclear missile arsenal. there are some 70 produced minnesota tests last year. over 30 misogynist this year. there is no talk. and north koreans might be,

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