even britain's spy chief, richard -- he had mi6 who i should note rarely speaks out in public, and certainly not as candidly as he did today, said he was stumped. >> prigozhin started off, i think, as a traitor at breakfast. he had been pardoned by supper, and then a few days later he was invited 40. so there are some things but even the chief of mi6 finds a little bit difficult to try and interpret in terms of who is in and who is out. >> cnn's -- oren liebermann at the pentagon for us tonight. i mean, or, and when i heard that comment, it just kind of stunned me to hear that the head of the mi6 said that there are even a little buffered by it. and they are still trying to sort out the idea that what happened that day, and the fact that he is alive right now? >> of, course and that is part of the mystery of all of this, where does afghani prigozhin