not do the debates. but that is gonna be up to him and his campaign. >> trump's former vice president mike pence i should note tonight was asking new hampshire voters to donate $1 to his campaign, because he has yet to qualify for that stage. joining me now, christian saltese anderson and van jones, i, mean what do you think that debate stage is showing up to look like? because we have got this new poll out of new hampshire today, among likely primary voters, trump's at 37%, ron desantis at 23, tim scott at eight, and then you have got chris christie, doug burgum, and the others, we know nikki haley and -- have so far qualified to a debate stage, they say. >> i think it is gonna be really interesting, i don't know how crowded it will be once you factor in all of these folks having to get a certain