exercise for the american people to actually hear if donald trump can make that case. >> well, that also stood out to me. the other two, we kind of knew about. they could be an option. that's what the january 6th committee recommended to the justice department. the one you're talking about was enacted after the civil war. essentially, as "the new york times" sums this up, it was to provide a tal for agents to go after kkk. it was trump facing prosecution on accusations of trying to rig the election himself. >> yes. that goes to what you were talking about earlier with ambassador bolton, which is his intent. not only intent. the knowledge that he had, and what he was doing told. remember, that there were 64 court cases after the election. he lost all of them.