>> i remember sitting in the second bedroom of my house. i bought an isdn line, a pack ard bell computer for $3,000, a router. and i taught myself all the html stuff i need to do to put together the web site. which wasn't hard to do. >> you taught yourself this? that's easy. that's not a big accomplishment. >> you make it sound easy. >> it is. >> i couldn't do that. >> yeah, you could. that wasn't the hard part. the hard part was figure out how to get streaming to work with after of growing number of users in an internet infrastructure that didn't support it. so putting in the servers, connecting the servers, understanding the networking which is what my microsolutions company did. we were one of the first local area networking companies in the world. putting all those features together and then knowing that we had to go out and sell it and let people know what it was and evangelize it. putting all features together is what made it work. we're getting a million daily users in a world where hardly anybody had broadband. it was a big accomplishment. as we grew that and it became