specifically, so much of our lives are open to dissection and ill legitimacy and investigation. and we're constantly questioned ever since we're very young that who we are is incorrect, wrong and should be kept secret. and i think that being someone that is very visible and in a stigmatized community, i am a transwoman of color. i'm a young woman. and are issues that i think we need to give transpeople space to tell their own stories. we should follow the lead of people who are out there and being visible and advocating for these rates. >> rights. >> that's why i had you on the show, promoted your book, told everybody to go and read the damn thing. so i ask you again, why have i been vilified for being transparently supportive of you? i don't get it. >> maybe you don't get it because you're not a transwoman. transwomen are -- >> explain to me what i did wrong. what did i do wrong? >> so before commercial break, we had a lovely conversation and then all of a sudden you said,