he was really good. i think he was smoking a cigar and he was, of course, really over weight. we don't know what he died of yet. i can speculation. but when you see a guy that size at age 51, no previous things about anything you wouldn't normally think the heart. but the last time i saw him, he was in a great mood. >> tell me, larry, you interviewed him and you knew him. i always got the feeling with james gandolfini that the super star status that came with his role "the sopranos" took him by surprise and he always slightly struggled with the amazing fame it brought him. would you go along with that? >> i would agree completely with that. as i said, he was a classic charter. many roles, many diverse roles and suddenly, you're given this -- you know, you're come parred to o'connor getting all in the family, very similar, another charter actor suddenly becomes this huge star in a -- in a television show that goes beyond expectations and suddenly you're freshed on the scene. you'll never be the same once