and they were always outgoing, energetic, willing to share every bit of information that they could possibly share with not only us, but with anybody else who would pull up alongside us on the road who were afraid of what was coming at them, and they did it in a very, very good manner that was very well understood. i know they were both excellent forecasters. paul generally rode with tony lawback and myself in one of the vehicles that followed. he was a tremendous photographer and a great videographer, creative beyond anybody of his years that i've seen before. and the three guys were just incredible friends. the compatibility amongst all our team was always there. it was just a stunning kind of thing to listen to and i myself