he's hurling balls at their heads, shoving them around, using some pretty bigoted language, which i won't repeat. all pretty unpleasant. i mean, i suppose the obvious question, though, is how unusual is this -- he's kicking somebody there. this can't be right, can it tyree? this is unusual behavior, even by sporting coach standards, isn't it? >> yes, it is. and i think he has come to the conclusion that he made a mistake or whatnot. but at the same time, if you were at the gym at the time and around coach rice and knew coach rice as the person that i know him as, you understand that he was just probably seeing something that day that you were lacking and he was trying to motivate you. i mean, we all have different ways of motivation. motivating others. and that was one of his ways to try to motivate players. >> when you were in the team playing with him, how did everybody feel about him? did most of the players agree with you, did they feel motivated? because there was an argument being put forward by some commentators that his firing is indicative of a -- as he put it,