[ cheers and applause ] >> we're back with wendell pierce and don lemon. and now joining us is chef roy choi. he's the author of the book "l.a. son." >> you're not a bad son, actually. you were really good. i was surprised. >> no, i'm not. it seems nowadays somebody with a gun is shooting somebody. but these people in the segment as many people in the red state america and gun country america, they like guns. i have to admit. i like guns. i like holding guns. i like shooting guns. i don't think i necessarily want my neighbor to have a gun, but i'm ambivalent. can the two -- this is more than anything else, i felt as i've traveled and come to know my own