speak to my fellow officers they are continuing to experience from the events of january 6th. there's absolutely nothing wrong with seeking professional counseling. what we went through that day was traumatic and if you are hurting, please take advantage of the counseling services that are available to us. >> as you know, there can be stigma, right, for officers involved. they might be reluctant to seek help, fear of the consequences. given your experience, i want to give you a chance to speak to folks who might face this kind of thing. that's your advice to them? >> jim, my advice is get help if you need it and we have to move past saying, oh, i'm not strong enough. i'm not tough enough. it's okay. you're a police officer, in any type of law enforcement position, if you need help, get the help.