getting -- listen to this, 85% of the vote. 85%. that doesn't happen very often. a major party candidate getting 10, 12, 14% of the vote in mcauliffe's case, it tells you the republican base was completely activated and democrats, especially in many black areas, and also i have to say the youth vote, here in my backyard, they didn't turn out. so when you have that combination, this kind of result is inevitable. >> it strikes me that parties often tend to overlearn the positive lessons from elections like that, maybe underlearn the negative. i wonder if we turn to the republican party here, the thing about youngkin was that he did not run as a trump. he put some deliberately -- very deliberately put some distance between him and trump. is there a lesson for republicans as well that their path to victory, not just in