depiction in a courtroom. however, i will say that jason sheffield, another defense attorney, he represents travis mcmichael, the one who actually shot ahmaud arbery three times with a shotgun, he is saying, his defense attorney, that hey, i may not like the language that kevin used but essentially what he said is true. this is a window on the defense here. we're beginning to understand what type of juror they're looking for. and just as you said, it is a white male from the south, 40 years and above, who didn't go to college. and right now they're saying out of the 500, even though there were a thousand summoned, 500 people have shown up for a potential jury duty, they say they're not seeing that in the mix. and clearly that is the key demographic they believe for the juror who will be open to the defense's arguments and the defense is standing on two things here, one is self-defense, and the other is that these men were attempting