across, you know, most television stations. >> right, this is a real moment in the limelight for the rules committee. what's important for us to remember and for our viewers to remember is this is going to determine the rules for the house vote. it's not determining the rules for the trial. >> right. and so they will be considering issues such as the length of the debate and even what kind of amendments might or might not be allowed to the articles, and there's also going to be an opportunity for republicans to basically criticize, and their first opportunity to criticize the judiciary committee's report. so it's likely going to be a fairly contentious hearing, won't be any live witnesses in terms of fact witnesses or testimony, and that may actually contribute a little bit to fatig fatigue operate of the audience. >> all right, david gergen, let's talk about fatigue. the trend line on public support for impeachment is not a good one for democrats. cnn's latest polling just out this morning shows nationally now just 45% of americans