trump would be a strong second. >> let me ask you this, two fold question. what should voters be excited about in a donald trump presidency if we see it, and what should they be worried about. >> the political system is broken, trump nailed this in many the debate. you can buy politicians of either party for a contribution, the special interest, the lobbyists, the billionaires are calling the shots. all these -- >> are you saying a trump president would change that? >> he would be completely independent. you can't buy donald trump, he's worth $10 billion. he doesn't need loblobbyists. >> he also can't return citizens unite -- >> no, but he would have the independence to bring real reform to our economic system. >> tax reform? >> yes. across the board, you need a president who is a leader and