boss, vice president mike pence, would do this voluntarily with the committee? >> so it's great to be with you. and i will preface this by saying this is my analysis based on i've not talked with the former vice president about this issue. but knowing him and having worked for him for several years, i anticipate that he'll cooperate with the committee in some capacity. however, this is an important distinction. this is a voluntary request. his former -- his former chief of staff, mark short, agreed to cooperate with the committee when he was subpoenaed. if there's something you should know about pence world it is that they are by the book kind of institutionalists by nature. i think if he were to receive a subpoena he would absolutely comply. he believes in the oversight rule that congress has on the executive branch. i'm a little less -- little more skeptical that he wouldn't in a volunteer capacity. we went through the anniversary of january 6, and it's very clear where most of the republican party and the republican base is on this