in changing the filibuster in that op-ed that you no doubt read today. last week biden expressed frustration with manchin for holding up his agenda. he didn't say it by name, but he hinted at it. how have past presidents dealt with swing senators like joe manchin? >> you have to strong-arm them. lyndon johnson would do the lean-in treatment and stare you down, make your life miserable for you. you have to have discipline. manchin has become a media star as being the guy who holds the democratic party in the balance. it's unfortunate. you would think at this point he would get behind the fact that the republican party is gerrymandering, trying to disenfranchise voters. but he wants to be seen as the maverick on west virginia on issues of voting rights which has a lot to do with race. manchin isn't a progressive. he's more worried about his future in west virginia politics than he is helping the biden administration succeed.