to do so, but it's not something that we can simply pass off to the criminal justice system or to the impeachment system. this is a simpler matter. it has to be taken separately and seriously. >> very stimulating conversation. a lot to chew on in reading this article. we'll chew on it some more this weekend. really appreciate it. great honor to have you both on at the same time. thanks so much. >> thank you. >> thank you, jim. all right, hope to do it again soon. all right. in the meantime, there is mounting frustration in hawaii. residents are speaking out about the response to maui's wildfires as the death toll grows and more than 1,000 people are still missing. we'll go live to maui next. you're live in "the cnn newsroom." ♪ please don't go ♪ ♪ please e don't go ♪ ♪ please don't go ♪ ♪ please don't go ♪

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