conservatives on the court tend to be more originalist in their thinking when it comes to the constitution. they may be tempted, i suppose, to align themselves with the -- i guess the thought process you're laying out today, it's in the constitution, it says it very clearly right there. >> and its original mean something clear, so they have a real problem. they may personally want to see donald trump president again, though i don't know, but whatever they want personally, if they're going to stick by their guns and interpret the constitution according to its clear meaning and in this case its original meaning, as well, they really are not going to have much choice. but it seems to me that whatever they do, their feet have to be held to the fire. if they decide that this wasn't an insurrection, that's going to be hard to square with the clear meaning of that word in the constitution, if they decide that donald trump was simply,

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