saying so for their multiple bull elements to this, the first you can see and here behind me here in manhattan at the gates of columbia university. >> what you see behind me as a pro-palestinian demonstration that's essentially martin just up to the gates of columbia university as far as they can make it at this point. and they're chanting in solidarity with demonstrators on campus, as you recall, server days ago, the university president get into having to turn to the nypd for help in removing students portions of an encampment that had formed while she was testifying before lawmakers about antisemitism on campus since then, only students, faculty, perhaps some parents able to actually make their way on campus. we were allowed to do so as well through the working with the columbia school parallelism to see firsthand this persistent encampment. these are demonstrators that are still maintaining that, that footprint currently on campus and they're doing so peacefully at this point, the question lesson is, when or will columbia university feel the need to once again interjects? so while that is happening there, on the other