kleptocracy. it's more like a criminal mafia bureau than it is any government. so when you start hitting all those who support putin because they are being rich of him to inc include his foreign minister, lavrov, who has a mistress in the uk, you will see some things incur that will encourage putin not do this attack. the last thing i'll say, fredricka, and then i'll stop, i'm really concerned for the russian military. they don't know what they're getting into. and from a military perspective, when you do troop-to-task analysis of how many soldiers they have, yeah, it seems like a lot, 100-plus thousand, but ukraine is an extremely big country with a population of 40 million and an army over 250,000. so those things can be very dangerous to mr. putin as well. >> i'm learning a lot from both of you. general and david, i heard what you were saying, too, on with america em out, macron has kind