we've not heard from them. we're waiting to hear exactly who this is and what happened, exactly why this happened. we are expecting that update within the next couple of minutes. hopefully we will get that information, but at moment we really are just waiting for those details. fred? >> all right. as soon as you learn, please pass it on to us. so peter, that there is a nearby joint base that possibly this military craft originated from, what are the roles? what do you know about the kind of training exercises that would take place over a very populated area? >> well, it's really early in this process. if it wasn't a downan air force training aircraft, it -- it could be a two-seater, what they call a t-38 talon which is used fairly regularly in the training