wants it to be made public that's guaranteed under law, the privacy act, as well as the intelligence community whistleblower protection act. that said, firsthand knowledge really speaks to the fact that this person had direct access to the contents of the july 25th call in realtime. they didn't hear about it from somebody else. they were likely present when this call was taking place. having been on a lot of these head of state calls, that's a relatively small group, fredricka. there is white house situation room staff on that call monitoring the call and staff taking notes, as well as policy people at the white house. the nsc staff that are responsible for the country at hand, in this case ukraine. so it could be a group of those people, and we know from the whistleblower complaint itself that 12 or so white house staff, according to the complaint, were on that call. so it narrows the pool somewhat, and the question from my perspective, fredricka, is whether any of the other people