attest is pretty much true, but you know, i'm also an insider in that i actually unlike donald trump know how things work, know how the bureaucracy and agencies work. i find him fascinating to us. . >> the princeton grad harvard law student, worked for the bush campaign? >> you elitist ivy league school people. >> last word here, it will be his coming out party, the first time people look at him in this could be a front-runner light. >> absolutely, and for iowa he is now the front-runner and i'm very interested to see how donald trump spins this. >> let me tell you what comes with the front-runner status, a big fat target. >> as we said, scott walker once stood next to donald trump in this debate. ana navarro, van jones great to have you here. do not miss the cnn debate tuesday night, begins at 6:00 p.m. eastern, the main debate at 8:30 p.m. eastern. cnn partnering with the salem radio network. go to salemmedia.com.