did not see -- did not see laquan mcdonald slashing tires or breaking into cars. all they saw was him walking down the street with a knife. and we saw that in the video. >> they got the, though. >> before they shot him, they did not give laquan -- laquan did not get a chance to speak to officers. >> so if you, brandon, had -- >> he did not respond. >> if you're approached by somebody with a knife, brandon, and they're within ten feet, are you going to give them a chance to talk to you? >> he was not approaching them. he was walking. >> he was not walking. he was walking parallel. >> did you see the video in. >> i've seen the video. it doesn't matter if he walked past them. if he's within ten feet, he can turn and lunge and take your life. >> okay. well, let's ponder about how we move forward for this because i'm certain the city of chicago -- this police officer has been charged with first-degree murder. prosecutors evidently think there's enough evidence to bring him to trial for this very serious charge, right? so that's going to go through the judicial process. but it doesn't negate what brandon has brought up, that