about what they're doing, but they have to take it a step further. >> yes don't see those protests today like we did a few months back. what would you say about that. >> i think that they're strategizing. the only criticism i have we would have to have a goal an end goal that's measurable. >> you can't see an end goal in sight at this moment? >> not at this moment. but i'm going to have to believe that they're doing something. >> would he be into the hash tags and the hands up and the chanting? >> you know hash tags hands up i think they're inspiring. >> at the end of the day. >> at the end of the day they're just hash tags. >> i want to read a bit -- a part of your opinion ed in "the new york times" because i found it powerful. you write when malcolm x spoke about the ballot or bullet americans sat up and took noted as he articulated the areality if not granted the right to