that would be the new normal. on july 25th according to the readout of the president's campaign, he asked the ukrainians to investigate ukrainians interference in our election that had been repudiated. and then july 26th, as i understand it, this person who reported to you heard the president saying he wanted investigations again in ukraine. so this is the question. the new normal that director mueller feared, is there a new normal that you fear that a president, any president, can use congressionally approved foreign aid as a lever to get personal advantage in something that in in his his interests but not the public's interest? >> that should not be the case, mr. welch. >> i yield back.