your spouse digging back from years ago, something from 2011. i'm not defending this man but do you think it's fair how sometimes the media can dig up something to obviously tarnish a reputation ahead of this debate a week from now? >> look this is what happens in the big leagues of politics donald trump is well aware of being in the big leagues of every facet of society already, talking about business talking about hollywood and ready now for politics n.politics especial especially when you're the front-runner which he is right now, opposition research coming out of the woodwork from all of the other campaigns. i'm surers that part of it. some of it is just being resourceful in terms of acreporter which i'm sure also is part what have happened at the "new york times" that you kind of dig up and as i -- that's why i mentioned to him the idea that he's not a politician and, you know to get to know somebody's past and what makes them tick it's not like how did you vote on x, y or z