years. nobody said that to you? >> no, nobody said that to me as far as i can recall. >> gloria, president biden obviously contradicted it appears what his generals said today. >> right. i think it's a real problem for them to say this publicly, that, yes, they said keep -- keep 2,500 troops, but it isn't a surprise that joe biden would reject their advice because if you look at the history of joe biden and his relationships with generals, it's always been a little bit fraught and even when he was in the obama administration. he and obama played good cop, bad cop. he was against the surge in afghanistan, you will recall and so it probably came as no surprise to the generals when the president now finally president got the opportunity to say let's get out of there and let's get out of there cleanly and i don't want anyone left. >> right. but gloria, the point here is -- >> credibility. >> president biden said nobody